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Cores semelhantes

Esmalte

 
2055 Navy Blue Gray
Model Master
14.7ml (Garrafa)
Matt
Esmalte
 
1720 FS 35164 Intermediate Blue
Model Master
14.7ml (Garrafa)
Matt
Esmalte
 
176 Neutral Grey
Humbrol
14ml (tinlet)
Matt
Esmalte
 
376 FS35237
Revell Color
14ml (tinlet)
Cetim
Esmalte
 
Panel Line Accent Color (Gray)
Tamiya 87133
40ml (Garrafa)
Matt
Esmalte
 
US05 5-H Haze Gray Late 1941
Colourcoats (discontinued 2014)
14ml
Matt
Esmalte
 
M14 JMSDF Grey
Colourcoats (discontinued 2014)
14ml
Matt
Esmalte
 
RN02 AP 507B Medium Grey (based on Snyder & Short, now superseded
Colourcoats (discontinued 2014)
14ml
Matt
Esmalte
 
RN07 B5 Dark Blue-Grey (based on Snyder & Short, now superseded)
Colourcoats (discontinued 2014)
14ml
Matt
Esmalte
 
M20 Russian Baltic Fleet Grey
Colourcoats (discontinued 2014)
14ml
Matt
Esmalte
 
ACSM06 Grey
Colourcoats (discontinued 2014)
14ml
Cetim
Esmalte
 
ACUS03 Light Ghost Gray (FS26375)
Colourcoats (discontinued 2014)
14ml
Cetim
Esmalte
 
ACUS04 Dark Ghost Gray (FS26320)
Colourcoats (discontinued 2014)
14ml
Cetim
Esmalte
 
ACUS06 WWII USN Blue Gray (FS25189)
Colourcoats (discontinued 2014)
14ml
Cetim
Esmalte
 
ACS05 WUP Grey Interior Primer
Colourcoats (discontinued 2014)
14ml
Cetim
Esmalte
 
ALCE631 Mil-Spec Medium Grey FS35237
Alclad II
30ml (Garrafa)
Matt
Esmalte
 
1720 Intermediate Blue FS35164
Testors
14.7ml (Garrafa)
Matt
Esmalte
 
X036 RAF Dark Camouflage Grey BS629
XtraColor
14ml (tinlet)
Lustro
Esmalte
 
X131 Dark Gull Grey FS16231
XtraColor
14ml (tinlet)
Lustro
Esmalte
 
X126 Dark Blue/Grey FS15237
XtraColor
14ml (tinlet)
Lustro
Esmalte
 
A.MIG-1607 Panel Line Wash - Sky Grey
Ammo by Mig Jimenez
35ml (Garrafa)
Matt
Esmalte
 
US05 Late 1941 5-H Haze Gray
Colourcoats (since 2014)
14ml
Matt
Esmalte
 
ACUS38 Gray Blue/Medium Gray FS35237
Colourcoats (since 2014)
14ml
Matt
Esmalte
 
M14 JMDSF Upperworks Grey
Colourcoats (since 2014)
14ml
Matt
Esmalte
 
NARN24 50/50 Emergency Mix Medium Grey
Colourcoats (since 2014) ex-RN02
14ml
Matt
Esmalte
 
ACGW17 German Strut & Panel Grey
Colourcoats (since 2014)
30ml
Cetim
Esmalte
 
ACSM06 Grey MiG 21/23/25/27
Colourcoats (since 2014)
14ml
Cetim
Esmalte
 
ACUS03 Light Ghost Gray FS26375
Colourcoats (since 2014)
14ml
Cetim
Esmalte
 
ACUS04 Dark Ghost Gray FS26320
Colourcoats (since 2014)
14ml
Cetim
Esmalte
 
ACUS06 WW2 USN Blue Gray FS25189
Colourcoats (since 2014)
14ml
Cetim
Esmalte
 
M20 Russian Baltic Fleet Grey
Colourcoats (since 2014)
14ml
Cetim
Esmalte
 
ACS05 WUP Grey Interior Primer
Colourcoats (since 2014)
14ml
Cetim
Esmalte
 
HU3 Neutral Grey 43
Humbrol Authentic Colours
14ml
Matt
Esmalte
 
HU03 Neutral Grey 43
Humbrol Authentic Colours
14ml
Matt
Esmalte
 
51318 Gray Primer
Krylon
12 oz (Lata de spray)
Matt
Esmalte
 
1905 Colonial Blue
Krylon
12 oz (Lata de spray)
Lustro
Esmalte
 
E246s RAL 7000 Fehgrau (Squirrel Grey)
Arcus
10ml (Garrafa)
Matt
Esmalte

Acrílico

 
XA1158 AMC Battle Grey FS16173
XtraCrylix
16ml (Garrafa)
Lustro
Acrílico
 
XA1004 RAF Dark Sea Grey BS638
XtraCrylix
16ml (Garrafa)
Lustro
Acrílico
 
XA1036 RAF Dark Camouflage Grey BS629
XtraCrylix
16ml (Garrafa)
Lustro
Acrílico
 
XA1157 Dark Grey Modern Eagle FS16176
XtraCrylix
16ml (Garrafa)
Lustro
Acrílico
 
XA1125 Intermediate Blue FS15164
XtraCrylix
16ml (Garrafa)
Lustro
Acrílico
 
H317 Gray (FS36231)
Mr. Aqueous Hobby Color
10ml
Cetim
Acrílico
 
H337 FS35237 Grayish Blue
Mr. Aqueous Hobby Color
10ml
Cetim
Acrílico
 
UA 046 Neutral Grey 43 - FS 36173
Lifecolor UA046
22ml
Matt
Acrílico
 
UA 028 Grey - FS 36270
Lifecolor UA028
22ml
Matt
Acrílico
 
UA 045 Non Specular Intermediate Blue - FS 35164 Battleship Grey
Lifecolor UA0045
22ml
Cetim
Acrílico
 
4761 Dark Ghost Gray FS36320
Model Master
14.7ml (Garrafa)
Matt
Acrílico
 
4847 US Navy Blue Gray M-485
Model Master
14.7ml (Garrafa)
Matt
Acrílico
 
4744 Intermediate Blue FS35164
Model Master
14.7ml (Garrafa)
Matt
Acrílico
 
176 Neutral Grey
Humbrol
5ml
Matt
Acrílico
 
FS36152 FS 36152
Revell Color
18ml (Conta-gotas)
Matt
Acrílico
 
XF-75 IJN Gray (Kure Arsenal)
Tamiya 81775
10ml (Garrafa)
Matt
Acrílico
 
XF-87 IJN Gray (Maizuru Arsenal)
Tamiya 81787
10ml (Garrafa)
Matt
Acrílico
 
XF-66 Light Grey
Tamiya 81766
10ml (Garrafa)
Matt
Acrílico
 
A38 Dark Gull
 Gray
Pactra
10ml (Garrafa)
Matt
Acrílico
 
A38 Dark Gull Gray
Pactra
20ml
Matt
Acrílico
 
A37 Flat Medium Gray
Pactra
20ml
Matt
Acrílico
 
N06M Grey RLM02
AGAMA LH138N06
10ml (Garrafa)
Matt
Acrílico
 
N13M Sky Blue RLM 78
AGAMA
10ml
Matt
Acrílico
 
NAC-21 Medium Gray
Andrea Color AC-21
17ml (Conta-gotas)
Matt
Acrílico
 
73092 Light-Grey (Faded)
Akan
10ml (Garrafa)
Matt
Acrílico
 
72028 FS 36270 Neutral Grey
Akan
10ml (Garrafa)
Matt
Acrílico
 
70016 BS 637 Medium Sea Gray
Akan
10ml (Garrafa)
Matt
Acrílico
 
77011 Light gray-blue basic color on Mirage 2000
Akan
10ml (Garrafa)
Matt
Acrílico
 
77204 Grey (factory) for Su-27 digital camouflage
Akan
10ml (Garrafa)
Matt
Acrílico
 
77104 FS 35237 - Gray Blue
Akan
10ml (Garrafa)
Matt
Acrílico
 
72043 FS 35237 Gray Blue
Akan
10ml (Garrafa)
Matt
Acrílico
 
71100 Dark Gray 51 for freeboard main deck and gun casemates
Akan
10ml (Garrafa)
Matt
Acrílico
 
70049 507B (1940) Gray
Akan
10ml (Garrafa)
Matt
Acrílico
 
76014 Dull Gray Steel
Akan
10ml (Garrafa)
Metálico
Acrílico
 
921571 Flat Neutral Gray
Testors 1571
0.25 fl oz (Garrafa)
Matt
Acrílico
 
23-13 Necron Compound (Dry)
Citadel
12ml
Metálico
Acrílico
 
AK 733 Dunkelgrau - RAL 7037
AK Interactive
17ml
Matt
Acrílico
 
AK 3146 German Grey Uniform Light
AK Interactive
17ml (Conta-gotas)
Matt
Acrílico
 
AK 794 SLA Blue
AK Interactive
17ml
Matt
Acrílico
 
4639AP Flat Non Specular Interm. Blue
Italeri Acrylic Paint FS 35164
20ml (Conta-gotas)
Matt
Acrílico
 
A.MIG-210 Gray Blue AMT-11 (FS35237)
Ammo by Mig Jimenez
17ml (Conta-gotas)
Matt
Acrílico
 
A.MIG-059 Grey
Ammo by Mig Jimenez
17ml (Conta-gotas)
Cetim
Acrílico
 
A.MIG-205 Dark Gull Gray
Ammo by Mig Jimenez
17ml (Conta-gotas)
Cetim
Acrílico
 
SC-04 Anthracite Gray
Scale75
17ml (Conta-gotas)
Matt
Acrílico
 
P048 Gris Mer Foncé RAL 7037
Prince August Air 71048
17ml
Matt
Acrílico
 
505378 US Gull Gray Dark
Polly Scale Model & Hobby
15ml (Garrafa)
Matt
Acrílico
 
71.307 BS Medium Sea Grey - BS637
Vallejo Model Air
17ml (Conta-gotas)
Matt
Acrílico
 
MMP-073 Light Ghost Grey FS36375
Mission Models
30ml
Matt
Acrílico
 
MMP-064 Dark Gull Grey FS36231
Mission Models
30ml
Matt
Acrílico
 
MMP-118 Medium Grey FS 36270
Mission Models
30ml
Matt
Acrílico
 
MMP-042 British Light Silver Grey RAL 7001
Mission Models
30ml
Matt
Acrílico
 
MMP-072 Medium Gray FS35237
Mission Models
30ml
Matt
Acrílico
 
72.753 Chainmail Silver
Vallejo Game Air
17ml (Conta-gotas)
Matt
Acrílico
 
3043 US Neutral Gray 43
Color of Eagles
17ml (Conta-gotas)
Matt
Acrílico
 
6112 BS629 Ocean Gray
Color of Eagles
17ml (Conta-gotas)
Matt
Acrílico
 
3048 US Blue Gray
Color of Eagles
17ml (Conta-gotas)
Matt
Acrílico
 
3046 US Intermediate Blue
Color of Eagles
17ml (Conta-gotas)
Matt
Acrílico
 
70.905 Blue Grey Pale - FS35237
Vallejo Model Color 70.905, 905, Pos. 156
17ml (Conta-gotas)
Matt
Acrílico
 
70.904 Dark Blue Grey - FS35189
Vallejo Model Color 70.904, 904, Pos. 157
17ml (Conta-gotas)
Matt
Acrílico
 
69.038 Medium Grey
Vallejo Mecha Colors
17ml (Conta-gotas)
Cetim
Acrílico
 
69.038 Medium Grey
Vallejo Mecha Colors
18ml (Conta-gotas)
Cetim
Acrílico
 
69.014 Grey Green
Vallejo Mecha Colors
17ml (Conta-gotas)
Cetim
Acrílico
 
69.014 Grey Green
Vallejo Mecha Colors
18ml (Conta-gotas)
Cetim
Acrílico
 
203 Grey Pastel (2mm)
Molotow Markers 127.218
10ml (Marcador)
Cetim
Acrílico
 
AK 2162 GRAUBLAU-GREY BLUE RAL 5008
AK Interactive Air Series
17ml (Conta-gotas)
Cetim
Acrílico
 
AK 2013 RAF Medium Sea Grey
AK Interactive Air Series
17ml (Conta-gotas)
Cetim
Acrílico
 
AK 2232 M-485 Blue-Gray
AK Interactive Air Series
17ml (Conta-gotas)
Cetim
Acrílico
 
SC300 RAL 7000 Kriegsmarine Medium Gray
Scale Colors
1 fl oz (Garrafa)
Matt
Acrílico
 
SC003 5-O Ocean Gray
Scale Colors
1 fl oz (Garrafa)
Matt
Acrílico
 
1036 Neutral Grey
ICM
12ml (Garrafa)
Matt
Acrílico
 
MPA-025 Silver
Pro Acryl
22ml (Conta-gotas)
Metálico
Acrílico
 
AK 11884 Dark Gull Grey FS 36231
AK 3rd Generation - Air
17ml (Garrafa)
Matt
Acrílico
 
AK 11865 Blue-Grey M-485
AK 3rd Generation - Air
17ml (Conta-gotas)
Matt
Acrílico
 
AK 11855 RAF DARK CAMOUFLAGE GREY BS381C/629
AK 3rd Generation - Air
17ml (Conta-gotas)
Matt
Acrílico
 
AK 11885 Aggressor Grey FS 36251
AK 3rd Generation - Air
17ml (Conta-gotas)
Matt
Acrílico
 
AK 11886 Medium Grey FS 36270
AK 3rd Generation - Air
17ml (Conta-gotas)
Matt
Acrílico
 
AK 11843 RAF Medium Sea Grey
AK 3rd Generation - Air
17ml (Conta-gotas)
Cetim
Acrílico
 
A054 Grey (FS36270)
Hataka Hobby Red Line HTK-A054
17ml (Conta-gotas)
Matt
Acrílico
 
A214 BS Dark Camouflage Grey (BS381C:629)
Hataka Hobby Red Line HTK-A214
17ml (Conta-gotas)
Matt
Acrílico
 
A046 Medium Grey (FS35237)
Hataka Hobby Red Line HTK-A046
17ml (Conta-gotas)
Matt
Acrílico
 
A071 AMT-11 Blue Grey
Hataka Hobby Red Line HTK-A071
17ml (Conta-gotas)
Matt
Acrílico
 
A502 507B RN Medium Grey
Hataka Hobby Red Line HTK-A502
17ml (Conta-gotas)
Matt
Acrílico
 
A504 B5 RN Dark Blue-Grey
Hataka Hobby Red Line HTK-A504
17ml (Conta-gotas)
Matt
Acrílico
 
A218 Blue Grey (FS35189)
Hataka Hobby Red Line HTK-A218
17ml (Conta-gotas)
Matt
Acrílico
 
B054 Grey (FS36270)
Hataka Hobby Blue Line HTK-B054
17ml (Conta-gotas)
Matt
Acrílico
 
B214 BS Dark Camouflage Grey (BS381C:629)
Hataka Hobby Blue Line HTK-B214
17ml (Conta-gotas)
Matt
Acrílico
 
B046 Medium Grey (FS35237)
Hataka Hobby Blue Line HTK-B046
17ml (Conta-gotas)
Matt
Acrílico
 
B071 AMT-11 Blue Grey
Hataka Hobby Blue Line HTK-B071
17ml (Conta-gotas)
Matt
Acrílico
 
B502 507B RN Medium Grey
Hataka Hobby Blue Line HTK-B502
17ml (Conta-gotas)
Matt
Acrílico
 
B504 B5 RN Dark Blue-Grey
Hataka Hobby Blue Line HTK-B504
17ml (Conta-gotas)
Matt
Acrílico
 
B218 Blue Grey (FS35189)
Hataka Hobby Blue Line HTK-B218
17ml (Conta-gotas)
Matt
Acrílico
 
ATOM-20134 Blue Grey
ATOM
20ml (Garrafa)
Matt
Acrílico
 
ATOM-20146 Dark Grey
ATOM
20ml (Garrafa)
Matt
Acrílico

Laca

 
TS-99 IJN Gray (Maizuru Arsenal)
Tamiya 85099
100ml (Lata de spray)
Matt
Laca
 
TS-32 Haze Grey
Tamiya 85032
100ml (Lata de spray)
Matt
Laca
 
AS-7 Neutral Gray (WWII - USAAF)
Tamiya 86507
100ml
Matt
Laca
 
PS-63 Bright Gun Metal
Tamiya 86063
100ml (Lata de spray)
Matt
Laca
 
TS-66 IJN Gray (Kure Arsenal)
Tamiya 85066
100ml
Lustro
Laca
 
TS-100 Semi-Gloss Bright Gun Metal
Tamiya 85100
100ml (Lata de spray)
Cetim
Laca
 
307 Gray FS36320
Mr.COLOR C307
10ml (Garrafa)
Cetim
Laca
 
72 Intermediate Blue
Mr.COLOR C72
10ml (Garrafa)
Cetim
Laca
 
ZP-1033 Telegrey 2
Zero Paints RAL 7046
60ml (Garrafa)
Matt
Laca
 
ZP-1033 Squirrel grey
Zero Paints RAL 7000
60ml (Garrafa)
Matt
Laca
 
GC-1187 Mercedes Benz China Blue
Gravity Colors
30ml (Garrafa)
Matt
Laca
 
LP-14 IJN Gray (Maizuru Arsenal)
Tamiya Color Lacquer Paint
10ml (Garrafa)
Matt
Laca
 
LP-12 IJN Gray (Kure Arsenal)
Tamiya Color Lacquer Paint
10ml (Garrafa)
Matt
Laca
 
FG-04 Armor Gray
GAIA Frame Arms Girl
15ml (Garrafa)
Cetim
Laca

Laca acrílica

 
67103 FS36320 Dark Compass Ghost Gray
Akan
10ml (Garrafa)
Matt
Laca acrílica
 
63092 Light Gray (Faded)
Akan
10ml (Garrafa)
Matt
Laca acrílica
 
60047 Ocean Grey
Akan
10ml (Garrafa)
Matt
Laca acrílica
 
62028 FS36270 Neutral Gray
Akan
10ml (Garrafa)
Matt
Laca acrílica
 
67205 Medium Gray
Akan
10ml (Garrafa)
Matt
Laca acrílica
 
61100 Dark Gray 51
Akan
10ml (Garrafa)
Matt
Laca acrílica
 
67204 Gray Radio Transparent
Akan
10ml (Garrafa)
Matt
Laca acrílica
 
62043 FS35237 Medium Gray Blue
Akan
10ml (Garrafa)
Matt
Laca acrílica
 
67104 FS35237 Gray Blue
Akan
10ml (Garrafa)
Matt
Laca acrílica
 
C071 AMT-11 Blue Grey
Hataka Hobby Orange Line HTK-C071
17ml (Conta-gotas)
Matt
Laca acrílica
 
C054 Grey (FS36270)
Hataka Hobby Orange Line HTK-C054
17ml (Conta-gotas)
Matt
Laca acrílica
 
C214 BS Dark Camouflage Grey (BS381C:629)
Hataka Hobby Orange Line HTK-C214
17ml (Conta-gotas)
Matt
Laca acrílica
 
C502 507B RN Medium Grey
Hataka Hobby Orange Line HTK-C502
17ml (Conta-gotas)
Matt
Laca acrílica
 
C504 B5 RN Dark Blue-Grey
Hataka Hobby Orange Line HTK-C504
17ml (Conta-gotas)
Matt
Laca acrílica
 
C046 Medium Grey (FS35237)
Hataka Hobby Orange Line HTK-C046
17ml (Conta-gotas)
Matt
Laca acrílica
 
C218 Blue Grey (FS35189)
Hataka Hobby Orange Line HTK-C218
17ml (Conta-gotas)
Matt
Laca acrílica
 
TCP-1067 RN 507B- MEDIUM GREY, 1920-1941
Tru-Color
1 fl oz (Garrafa)
Laca acrílica
 
TCP-1109 Yokosuka Arsenal Gray A
Tru-Color
1 fl oz (Garrafa)
Matt
Laca acrílica
 
TCP-1107 Kure Arsenal Gray A
Tru-Color
1 fl oz (Garrafa)
Matt
Laca acrílica
 
TCP-1108 Maizuru Arsenal Gray A
Tru-Color
1 fl oz (Garrafa)
Matt
Laca acrílica
 
MRP-84 Fine Surface Primer - Grey
MR.Paint
60ml (Garrafa)
Matt
Laca acrílica
 
MRP-112 WWII RAF - Medium Sea Grey (BS 637)
MR.Paint
30ml (Garrafa)
Cetim
Laca acrílica
 
MRP-021 A-14 Faded Grey
MR.Paint
30ml (Garrafa)
Cetim
Laca acrílica
 
MRP-403 Grey - Ukraine AF, Su-25, digital camo
MR.Paint
30ml (Garrafa)
Cetim
Laca acrílica
 
MRP-105 U.S.Navy Modern Blue (FS35237)
MR.Paint
30ml (Garrafa)
Cetim
Laca acrílica
 
MRP-047 Dark Grey Radio antenna SU-27, Mig 29
MR.Paint
30ml (Garrafa)
Cetim
Laca acrílica
 
MRP-LPG Fine Surface Primer - Grey
MR.Paint
50ml (Garrafa)
Cetim
Laca acrílica
 
MRP-141 WWII US - Neutral Grey 43
MR.Paint
30ml (Garrafa)
Cetim
Laca acrílica
 
MRP-175 Blue-Grey 058M – Modern Swedish AF
MR.Paint
30ml (Garrafa)
Cetim
Laca acrílica
 
MRP-093 U.S. Dark Modern Grey (FS36176)
MR.Paint
30ml (Garrafa)
Cetim
Laca acrílica
 
PL118 Premium US DARK GULL GREY (FS36231)
SMS
30ml (Garrafa)
Matt
Laca acrílica
 
PL151 Premium NOBELS TARMAC
SMS
30ml (Garrafa)
Matt
Laca acrílica
 
PL60 Premium BLUE GREY (RAL 7000)
SMS
30ml (Garrafa)
Matt
Laca acrílica
 
PL117 Premium MOD EAGLE GREY (FS36176)
SMS
30ml (Garrafa)
Matt
Laca acrílica
 
RC963 RAF Medium Sea Grey BS381C/637
AK Real Colors
17ml (Conta-gotas)
Laca acrílica
 
RC923 M-485 Blue Grey
AK Real Colors
17ml (Conta-gotas)
Laca acrílica
 
RC289 RAF Medium Sea Grey (BS 381C / 637)
AK Real Colors
10ml (Garrafa)
Matt
Laca acrílica
 
RC247 Dark Gull Grey FS 36231
AK Real Colors
10ml (Garrafa)
Matt
Laca acrílica
 
RC237 Medium Grey FS 35237
AK Real Colors
10ml (Garrafa)
Matt
Laca acrílica
 
RC337 MIG-29 Light Grey
AK Real Colors
10ml (Garrafa)
Matt
Laca acrílica
 
RC256 M-485 Blue Grey
AK Real Colors
10ml (Garrafa)
Matt
Laca acrílica
 
RC246 F-15 Dark Grey (Mod Eagle) FS 36176
AK Real Colors
10ml (Garrafa)
Matt
Laca acrílica
 
OP 024MIL US Military Colour - Dark Gull Grey FS36231
Outlaw Paints OP024MIL
30ml (Garrafa)
Laca acrílica
 
OP 145MIL Australian Military Colour - Blue Grey FS35237
Outlaw Paints OP145MIL
30ml (Garrafa)
Laca acrílica
 
OP 060MIL Japanese Military Colour - IJN Grey
Outlaw Paints OP060MIL
30ml (Garrafa)
Laca acrílica

fichas de cores semelhantes

 
FS14158
 
FS16187
 
FS24158
 
FS25189
 
FS25237
 
FS26152
 
FS26173
 
FS26176
 
FS26187
 
FS26231
 
FS34158
 
FS35164
 
FS35189
 
FS35237
 
FS36152
 
FS36173
 
FS36176
 
FS36231
 
FS36270
 
FS36280
 
FS36187
 
FS25164
 
FS15164
 
FS15189
 
FS15237
 
FS16152
 
FS16173
 
FS16176
 
FS16231
 
FS16270
 
FS16280
 
RLM75
 
RAL7000
Fehgrau
 
RAL7001
Silbergrau
 
RAL7037
Staubgrau
 
RAL7042
Verkehrsgrau_A
 
RAL7045
Telegrau 1
 
RAL7046
Telegrau 2
 
BS381C:629
Dark Camouflage Grey /
 
BS381C:632
Dark Admiralty Grey
 
BS381C:636
Pru Blue
 
BS381C:638
Dark Sea Grey
 
BS381C:692
Smoke Grey

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